Hi All,
I am coming from an MS Access background and trying to figure out the best way to import related data.
I can create tables in Dataverse, create look up columns to link tables and I can create alternate keys to prevent duplicates.
I understand that the primary key is a GUID which is populated in the many table when the header record is selected.
My understanding is that the Primary Name column from the header table is the column that presents when selecting data in the look up column of the many table.
This is all good if I want to start from scratch and manual enter data and manually link the data via the look up column.
And based on this I can create views with the related data.
However, how would I go about setting up the tables to be able to import the following that automatically creates the lookup.
I have been searching everywhere and can't seem to figure it out. I see a lot of tutorials on line but no one appears to be addressing this scenario which I would have thought would be common.
The columns with red text are the primary keys (Composite)
Purchase Order Header
Vendor Id | Purchase Order | Purchase Order Date | Delivery By Date |
V10002 | 3333333 | 01-Dec-2023 | 14-Dec-2023 |
V10003 | 7777777 | 01-Dec-2023 | 14-Dec-2023 |
Purchase Order Line Items
Vendor Id | Purchase Order | Item Code | Quantity | Unit Price | Total Line Value |
V10002 | 3333333 | ITM11111 | 10 | 1 | 10 |
V10002 | 3333333 | ITM22222 | 20 | 5 | 100 |
V10002 | 3333333 | ITM33333 | 30 | 10 | 300 |
V10003 | 7777777 | ITM44444 | 40 | 12 | 480 |
V10003 | 7777777 | ITM55555 | 50 | 6 | 300 |
Vendors
Vendor Id | Vendor Name | Payment Terms |
V10002 | Apple | 30 |
V10003 | Microsoft | 30 |
Please let me know if I need to come at this from a different angle and disregard the use of composite primary keys.
Do I need to create a single column in each of these tables to define the KEY?
Any help will be very much appreciated.
Thanks for your help.
Michael
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@MikeS2023 wrote:Hi Fubu,
I looked at creating GUIDs but that would only work if the upload was a one off. If I wanted to load some invoice data and link it to the PO table at a later date I would need to look up the GUID for each record which I think would be quite slow for large data sets.data and the relationships are working. I just used the manual import function.
It depends, if it were a once off you might consider exporting to Excel from Dataverse using a Model Driven App (you can export 100,000 rows to Excel at a time off the Command Bar and hidden column A will contain the GUID), then with the Excel use VLookup or XLookup to get the GUID's into your your other data.
Alternate Keys are useful to hold the ID from another system, and both the Web API (custom code) and Dataflows can use them for Updates/Upserts (rather than having to use the guids).
If you end up with the correct outcome and everything is linked how you need it, then it was a correct way (and there is usually more than one way to achieve things with Dataverse).
Morning Mike I know what you mean I had the same type of issue recently. For your data structure it looks like there are no GUIDs but general ID's like V000001? Etc. If you imported vendor for example, your vendors dataverse table would generate guids, but...linking them back to joined tables would be painful however you do it.
If it were me I would generate guids in some way like here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7031347/how-can-i-generate-guids-in-excel
Get my vendors into excel, add column for vendorGuid, generate guid for each vendor and import into dataverse. Then in excel for the other joined tables use vendor as a pivot table and attempt to link it altogether.
There may be a better way. I offered the guid way because it just makes for better relationships between tables.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out Kristian. I really appreciate it.
I was hoping for a more elegant solution than this.
However, I will follow the VBA examples in the link and see if I can get it up and running. If I'm successful I might then try and create a flow that uses the Power Query interface to generate the GUIDs so that I am keeping everything in Dataverse rather than using VBA and separate systems to manipulate the data before importing. Hey I don't really know what I am doing yet but that is my thought process.
It's evening time here in Aus so I will take a look at it in the morning and circle back.
You're a good man Kristian. Thanks heaps.
No worries Mike, as soon as it gets complex it never gets elegant lol!!! Glad I could help in some small way.
Exactly what you need will depend on the method of Import and your import is a once off versus continuing into the future (i.e. will likely involve updates in the future).
If updates in the future then look into using Dataflow, if a once off then can be done with either standard Data Import or Dataflow.
For the PO table in dataverse, you would add a new Lookup field for the Vendor
For the PO Line Item table in dataverse, you would add a new Lookup field for the PO (and possibly one for the Vendor if you intend to carry it through into Dataverse)
Standard Data Import
(no Alternate keys etc needed as long as you Vendor and PO have uniques in Access)
Dataflow
Would require Alternate Keys to be defined. But has the benefit that it is easier to do future updates with the Alternate Keys defined (can also do the update via Web API using Alternate Keys)
Hi Fubu,
I looked at creating GUIDs but that would only work if the upload was a one off. If I wanted to load some invoice data and link it to the PO table at a later date I would need to look up the GUID for each record which I think would be quite slow for large data sets.
What I did was create primary keys in the PO Header and Line Items tables. (Is this necessary as I see the primary key option when importing which appears to pick up the alternate keys that I set up)
Made them be the Primary Name Column.
I set up alternate keys on these tables to ensure no duplicates. I know this is not necessary as we have the Primary Key field being a concatenation of these columns.
I added a lookup to the PO Line Items and referenced the PO Header Key.
I created a lookup on the PO Header to the Vendors table.
POHeaderKEY | Vendor Id | Purchase Order | Purchase Order Date | Delivery By Date |
V10002-1055648 | V10002 | 1055648 | 03-Dec-23 | 16-Dec-23 |
V10003-1056658 |
POLineItemsKEY | Vendor Id | Purchase Order | Item Code | Quantity | Unit Price | Total Line Value | POHeaderLookup |
V10002-1055648-ITM11111 | V10002 | 1055648 | ITM11111 | 10 | 1 | 10 | V10002-1055648 |
V10002-1055648-ITM22222 | V10002 | 1055648 | ITM22222 | 20 | 5 | 100 | V10002-1055648 |
V10002-1055648-ITM33333 | V10002 | 1055648 | ITM33333 | 30 | 10 | 300 | V10002-1055648 |
V10003-1056658-ITM44444 | V10003 | 1056658 | ITM44444 | 40 | 12 | 480 | V10003-1056658 |
V10003-1056658-ITM55555 | V10003 | 1056658 | ITM55555 | 50 | 6 | 300 | V10003-1056658 |
I was able to import data and the relationships are working. I just used the manual import function.
Is this method correct?
I will check out the link you provided and your notes on Dataflow.
Thanks for taking the time to take a look at this. I really appreciate it.
@MikeS2023 wrote:Hi Fubu,
I looked at creating GUIDs but that would only work if the upload was a one off. If I wanted to load some invoice data and link it to the PO table at a later date I would need to look up the GUID for each record which I think would be quite slow for large data sets.data and the relationships are working. I just used the manual import function.
It depends, if it were a once off you might consider exporting to Excel from Dataverse using a Model Driven App (you can export 100,000 rows to Excel at a time off the Command Bar and hidden column A will contain the GUID), then with the Excel use VLookup or XLookup to get the GUID's into your your other data.
Alternate Keys are useful to hold the ID from another system, and both the Web API (custom code) and Dataflows can use them for Updates/Upserts (rather than having to use the guids).
If you end up with the correct outcome and everything is linked how you need it, then it was a correct way (and there is usually more than one way to achieve things with Dataverse).
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