cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
SubB
Frequent Visitor

MS Forms Trigger and 90 day timeout disables Flow

I have a Power Automate flow that is triggered by the submission of an MS Form.

However, this may not be used at times, and if not used for 90 days, the Power Automate Flow is automatically disabled if not triggered for 90 days.  I need this flow to be live and enabled at all times - how can I achieve this?

1.  Is there a way to have multiple triggers - i.e. trigger the flow every 89 days AND when a Form is submitted?

2.  Is there a way to automate the submission of a dummy MS Form submission to artificially model a dummy submission?

3.  Any smarter way to achieve this?

 

All help here is much appreciated.  Thanks

Sub

13 REPLIES 13

You can create a workflow that will turn the flow back on every X days. 


Check out this blog:  https://www.about365.nl/2021/02/02/how-to-bypass-the-expiration-limit-in-power-automate/

______________________________________________________________


Did this answer your question? Please mark it as the solution.
Did it contribute positively towards finding the final solution? Please give it a thumbs up.

I answer questions on the forum for 2-3 hours every Thursday!



SubB
Frequent Visitor

Unfortunately that does not work as it requires a premium licence.  Any other thoughts?

Sorry not a premium licence - the use of this connector is blocked by our firms DLP policy.  Either way, point is I can't use this action.  Any alternative solution?

Well, you CAN have two triggers for a flow - but you'd need to create your main flow in a Solution, and then create the two other flows as the triggers, calling the "child". But I think you're going to run into the same issue anyway, since the "Trigger when a form is submitted" will still time out after 90 days. 

 

I was trying to think of a way you could automatically submit a pre-filled MS Form and then filter it out by a keyword, but you'd need Power Automate Desktop and a VM to do that, so, more trouble than it's worth and ... premium. 

______________________________________________________________


Did this answer your question? Please mark it as the solution.
Did it contribute positively towards finding the final solution? Please give it a thumbs up.

I answer questions on the forum for 2-3 hours every Thursday!



Thanks for the suggestion but agree this does give you a way to setup multiple triggers, but as each of these is a flow by itself, the 90 day issue is still an issue.  

Still looking for a simple non-premium solution - Anyone?

My simplest suggestion is ... add a reminder in your calendar repeating every 87-ish days (to avoid weekends) to go check it / turn it back on if needed. But that's like, caveman-methodology, haha. With the limitations, that's the best I can come up with. 

Let's see if these fine fellows have any better ideas... they usually do.. @grantjenkins @Pstork1 @Expiscornovus

______________________________________________________________


Did this answer your question? Please mark it as the solution.
Did it contribute positively towards finding the final solution? Please give it a thumbs up.

I answer questions on the forum for 2-3 hours every Thursday!



The only way I can think of is a variation on the flow in the article. But instead of using an email to trigger it I would set it up with a recurrence trigger that runs once every month. It would then read a list of flows to enable from some data source, it could even be Excel, and enable the flows using the Flow administration connector. But if that is blocked by DLP in your tenant that won't work.

 

Another way would be to write some PowerShell using the Power Automate commands that would do something similar. Use the built in windows scheduler to schedule the PowerShell script to run once a month and enable a set of flows that you specify.

 

Finally, you could try scheduling a Desktop flow to go in once a month and enable the flow. You can now schedule desktop flows with the windows scheduler without making them unattended.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.
Expiscornovus
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @Rhiassuring,

 

In addition to the approaches @Pstork1 already suggested and which are very useful I have one other suggestion.

 

You could also use CLI for Microsoft 365 (which gives you a bit more options from an operating system/platform point of view compared to PowerShell).

 

That module also has a flow enable command as well:

https://pnp.github.io/cli-microsoft365/cmd/flow/flow-enable

 



Happy to help out! 🙂

Interested in more #PowerAutomate #SharePointOnline or #MicrosoftCopilotStudio content?
Visit my blog, Subscribe to my YouTube channel or Follow me on Twitter


Thank you @Pstork1 & @Expiscornovus  for your responses!


Unfortunately, unless I'm mistaken, any PowerShell running will require a premium license so that won't work for @SubB 

 

...and for the CLI solution, I have no idea XD

______________________________________________________________


Did this answer your question? Please mark it as the solution.
Did it contribute positively towards finding the final solution? Please give it a thumbs up.

I answer questions on the forum for 2-3 hours every Thursday!



The CLI will use the same connector as the cloud flow I think. So if its blocked by DLP it will be blocked for the CLI also. But the PowerShell won't require a Premium license unless you are accessing Premium Actions.  You can read about the requirements here:  PowerShell support for Power Apps and Power Automate - Power Platform | Microsoft Learn



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.

Ohhh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood RE: PowerShell. 

______________________________________________________________


Did this answer your question? Please mark it as the solution.
Did it contribute positively towards finding the final solution? Please give it a thumbs up.

I answer questions on the forum for 2-3 hours every Thursday!



Thanks @Pstork1 - I'm not familiar with PowerShell.  How would I synthesize an automated submission of a dummy MS Form using PowerShell.  Any tips on where I can go to help me figure this out?

Pstork1
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

I meant use a scheduled PowerShell script to re-enable the cloud flow that is getting turned off. You could schedule it to run once a month.  Its essentially the same as the cloud flow you referenced but I don't think it will be prevented by DLP policy.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.

Helpful resources

Announcements

Community will be READ ONLY July 16th, 5p PDT -July 22nd

Dear Community Members,   We'd like to let you know of an upcoming change to the community platform: starting July 16th, the platform will transition to a READ ONLY mode until July 22nd.   During this period, members will not be able to Kudo, Comment, or Reply to any posts.   On July 22nd, please be on the lookout for a message sent to the email address registered on your community profile. This email is crucial as it will contain your unique code and link to register for the new platform encompassing all of the communities.   What to Expect in the New Community: A more unified experience where all products, including Power Apps, Power Automate, Copilot Studio, and Power Pages, will be accessible from one community.Community Blogs that you can syndicate and link to for automatic updates. We appreciate your understanding and cooperation during this transition. Stay tuned for the exciting new features and a seamless community experience ahead!

Summer of Solutions | Week 4 Results | Winners will be posted on July 24th

We are excited to announce the Summer of Solutions Challenge!    This challenge is kicking off on Monday, June 17th and will run for (4) weeks.  The challenge is open to all Power Platform (Power Apps, Power Automate, Copilot Studio & Power Pages) community members. We invite you to participate in a quest to provide solutions to as many questions as you can. Answers can be provided in all the communities.    Entry Period: This Challenge will consist of four weekly Entry Periods as follows (each an “Entry Period”)   - 12:00 a.m. PT on June 17, 2024 – 11:59 p.m. PT on June 23, 2024 - 12:00 a.m. PT on June 24, 2024 – 11:59 p.m. PT on June 30, 2024 - 12:00 a.m. PT on July 1, 2024 – 11:59 p.m. PT on July 7, 2024 - 12:00 a.m. PT on July 8, 2024 – 11:59 p.m. PT on July 14, 2024   Entries will be eligible for the Entry Period in which they are received and will not carryover to subsequent weekly entry periods.  You must enter into each weekly Entry Period separately.   How to Enter: We invite you to participate in a quest to provide "Accepted Solutions" to as many questions as you can. Answers can be provided in all the communities. Users must provide a solution which can be an “Accepted Solution” in the Forums in all of the communities and there are no limits to the number of “Accepted Solutions” that a member can provide for entries in this challenge, but each entry must be substantially unique and different.    Winner Selection and Prizes: At the end of each week, we will list the top ten (10) Community users which will consist of: 5 Community Members & 5 Super Users and they will advance to the final drawing. We will post each week in the News & Announcements the top 10 Solution providers.  At the end of the challenge, we will add all of the top 10 weekly names and enter them into a random drawing.  Then we will randomly select ten (10) winners (5 Community Members & 5 Super Users) from among all eligible entrants received across all weekly Entry Periods to receive the prize listed below. If a winner declines, we will draw again at random for the next winner.  A user will only be able to win once overall. If they are drawn multiple times, another user will be drawn at random.  Individuals will be contacted before the announcement with the opportunity to claim or deny the prize.  Once all of the winners have been notified, we will post in the News & Announcements of each community with the list of winners.   Each winner will receive one (1) Pass to the Power Platform Conference in Las Vegas, Sep. 18-20, 2024 ($1800 value). NOTE: Prize is for conference attendance only and any other costs such as airfare, lodging, transportation, and food are the sole responsibility of the winner. Tickets are not transferable to any other party or to next year’s event.   ** PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED RULES for this CHALLENGE**   Week 1 Results: Congratulations to the Week 1 qualifiers, you are being entered in the random drawing that will take place at the end of the challenge.   Community MembersNumber SolutionsSuper UsersNumber Solutions Deenuji 9 @NathanAlvares24  17 @Anil_g  7 @ManishSolanki  13 @eetuRobo  5 @David_MA  10 @VishnuReddy1997  5 @SpongYe  9JhonatanOB19932 (tie) @Nived_Nambiar  8 @maltie  2 (tie)   @PA-Noob  2 (tie)   @LukeMcG  2 (tie)   @tgut03  2 (tie)       Week 2 Results: Congratulations to the Week 2 qualifiers, you are being entered in the random drawing that will take place at the end of the challenge. Week 2: Community MembersSolutionsSuper UsersSolutionsPower Automate  @Deenuji  12@ManishSolanki 19 @Anil_g  10 @NathanAlvares24  17 @VishnuReddy1997  6 @Expiscornovus  10 @Tjan  5 @Nived_Nambiar  10 @eetuRobo  3 @SudeepGhatakNZ 8     Week 3 Results: Congratulations to the Week 3 qualifiers, you are being entered in the random drawing that will take place at the end of the challenge. Week 3:Community MembersSolutionsSuper UsersSolutionsPower Automate Deenuji32ManishSolanki55VishnuReddy199724NathanAlvares2444Anil_g22SudeepGhatakNZ40eetuRobo18Nived_Nambiar28Tjan8David_MA22   Week 4 Results: Congratulations to the Week 4 qualifiers, you are being entered in the random drawing that will take place at the end of the challenge. Week 4:Community MembersSolutionsSuper UsersSolutionsPower Automate Deenuji11FLMike31Sayan11ManishSolanki16VishnuReddy199710creativeopinion14Akshansh-Sharma3SudeepGhatakNZ7claudiovc2CFernandes5 misc2Nived_Nambiar5 Usernametwice232rzaneti5 eetuRobo2   Anil_g2   SharonS2  

Check Out | 2024 Release Wave 2 Plans for Microsoft Dynamics 365 and Microsoft Power Platform

On July 16, 2024, we published the 2024 release wave 2 plans for Microsoft Dynamics 365 and Microsoft Power Platform. These plans are a compilation of the new capabilities planned to be released between October 2024 to March 2025. This release introduces a wealth of new features designed to enhance customer understanding and improve overall user experience, showcasing our dedication to driving digital transformation for our customers and partners.    The upcoming wave is centered around utilizing advanced AI and Microsoft Copilot technologies to enhance user productivity and streamline operations across diverse business applications. These enhancements include intelligent automation, AI-powered insights, and immersive user experiences that are designed to break down barriers between data, insights, and individuals. Watch a summary of the release highlights.    Discover the latest features that empower organizations to operate more efficiently and adaptively. From AI-driven sales insights and customer service enhancements to predictive analytics in supply chain management and autonomous financial processes, the new capabilities enable businesses to proactively address challenges and capitalize on opportunities.    

Updates to Transitions in the Power Platform Communities

We're embarking on a journey to enhance your experience by transitioning to a new community platform. Our team has been diligently working to create a fresh community site, leveraging the very Dynamics 365 and Power Platform tools our community advocates for.  We started this journey with transitioning Copilot Studio forums and blogs in June. The move marks the beginning of a new chapter, and we're eager for you to be a part of it. The rest of the Power Platform product sites will be moving over this summer.   Stay tuned for more updates as we get closer to the launch. We can't wait to welcome you to our new community space, designed with you in mind. Let's connect, learn, and grow together.   Here's to new beginnings and endless possibilities!   If you have any questions, observations or concerns throughout this process please go to https://aka.ms/PPCommSupport.   To stay up to date on the latest details of this migration and other important Community updates subscribe to our News and Announcements forums: Copilot Studio, Power Apps, Power Automate, Power Pages

Users online (922)