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Costs- Dev/Test Lab PowerApp/Dataverse

Hi all,

 

I am looking to get pricing for two developers in a dev/test sandbox tenant on Azure both using PowerApps and data verse. How much would this cost per month?

 

Thanks

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Its free for developers!!

 

https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/developerplan/

 

You can build out up to 3 developer environments per tenant - or each developer can have their own tenant.

 

Whatever works for your team - my team goes with personal tenants as it gives max flexibility. Full Dataverse is included without cost.

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Hi @useruk1 

 

First you must know that to use Power Apps and Azure you must have a subscription to each, and ideally they should be in the same tenat

Now you can use as mentioned in the other post development environments but you must have a Microsoft subscription to do so. It is important to note that these environments are not productive or sandbox and are limited in terms of the functionality you need to develop, if what you want is to train in this technology can serve you if on the contrary you need to make developments to pass them to production is not convenient to use this type of environments.

Now to answer your question you must have in the case of Power Apps a Power Apps premium license that has a cost of 20$.

 

That cost will include database storage space and the possibility to use premium connectors and dataverse.

Now development, test or production environments don't have a cost as such, but they take up storage space that is deducted from the total you have. For example, a dataverse environment takes up about 2.1GB of space, so having 3 would be 6.3 GB, then you must take into account the growth of your database.

Additionally for each license there is an increase of space. You can also buy space but it is very expensive.

As I said at the beginning, depending on your needs you can opt for the Developer Plan or a subscription.

As for azure it works the same way, here are some links

 

Power Apps Developer Plan | Microsoft Power Apps

Power Apps Licensing, Pricing & User Plans | Microsoft Power Apps

Azure for Students – Free Account Credit | Microsoft Azure

 

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Hi @useruk1 

 

With the Azure licence you get Azure Services consumption credits but not Power Apps or Power Automate.

Regardless of the agreement you will have to pay the minimum Power Apps licence to be able to develop with this technology, the price may vary depending on the agreement.

As for the size of the DB you would have to do an exercise, you can not use the Azure calculator, because dataverse despite being a SQL has a relational model and metadata that makes it work differently.

 

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Hi @useruk1 

 


Within the license you already have included storage space in the link that I sent you, you can see what they give you for storage. If you have to buy 2 licenses

To do the exercise is more complex, because it has to do with your database model and database size.

 

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If you’re buying PApps premium licenses, they are for unlimited environments within the same tenant. However you may need Power Automate premium licensing depending on what you are doing, in which case - yes you would need 2 licenses per developer - an Apps & an Automate License. 

each license adds 250MBs of storage capacity. The first Power Apps license you add to the tenant gives you a 10GB initial storage capacity. Each prod or sandbox environment requires 1GB capacity to be consumed regardless if Dataverse is deployed or not. Developer or Trial environments don’t consume capacity.

 

To get the best economies of scale, buy all licenses in the same tenant. Capacity is shared and you get Premium features such as managed environments, Pipelines, and default environment routing to easily move solutions from dev->test->prod. 

Good luck 👍 

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No, you have to remember that Power Apps and Dataverse is a Software-as-a-Service product and a low-code platform. To get started you don't need a Dev Box. That's basically a virtual machine that can come pre-loaded with developer tools and software for "pro-code" use. Unless you already know that your developers will need to create C# plugins, custom code connectors, or PCF controls AND they can't run that software on their work laptops or PCs... then it's a waste of money in my opinion.

 

All you really need to have to create Power Apps with Dataverse is a browser and decent internet speeds (once licensing is taken care of). VSCode is useful for JavaScript or Power Automate expressions, but that is a free tool. Buying a subscription to GitHub or Azure DevOps would be more beneficial for source control and CI/CD than a dev box in my opinion. 

 

Since you are buying a SaaS product license - you don't need to worry about compute power, the platform auto-scales for you based on demand. The only thing you have to take into account is License counts, and how much storage you consume for dev purposes, which should be minimal.

 

Once you start planning for Production use - then you take into account more variables for planning - what type of apps are you making, whats the user base for each app and total it for the organization, what's your projected growth rate for the DB based on app usage, and does that exceed the DB capacity granted per user (n# users * 250MBs). It's a guessing game at the beginning and you'll have to monitor or set up alerts to monitor capacity usage in the Power Platform Admin Center. Then buy add-ons or licenses as necessary.  If your devs know they will need azure resources, they should be able to tell you what specifically so you can price those things out.

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Hi @useruk1 

 

If exactly it has $ associated with it for consumption of azure services and resources.

 

 

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Its free for developers!!

 

https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/developerplan/

 

You can build out up to 3 developer environments per tenant - or each developer can have their own tenant.

 

Whatever works for your team - my team goes with personal tenants as it gives max flexibility. Full Dataverse is included without cost.

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Hi @useruk1 

 

First you must know that to use Power Apps and Azure you must have a subscription to each, and ideally they should be in the same tenat

Now you can use as mentioned in the other post development environments but you must have a Microsoft subscription to do so. It is important to note that these environments are not productive or sandbox and are limited in terms of the functionality you need to develop, if what you want is to train in this technology can serve you if on the contrary you need to make developments to pass them to production is not convenient to use this type of environments.

Now to answer your question you must have in the case of Power Apps a Power Apps premium license that has a cost of 20$.

 

That cost will include database storage space and the possibility to use premium connectors and dataverse.

Now development, test or production environments don't have a cost as such, but they take up storage space that is deducted from the total you have. For example, a dataverse environment takes up about 2.1GB of space, so having 3 would be 6.3 GB, then you must take into account the growth of your database.

Additionally for each license there is an increase of space. You can also buy space but it is very expensive.

As I said at the beginning, depending on your needs you can opt for the Developer Plan or a subscription.

As for azure it works the same way, here are some links

 

Power Apps Developer Plan | Microsoft Power Apps

Power Apps Licensing, Pricing & User Plans | Microsoft Power Apps

Azure for Students – Free Account Credit | Microsoft Azure

 

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useruk1
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Hi @Jmanriquerios 

 

Thank you for your detailed reply.

 

My organisation currently has a MS MACC agreement, how does the costs look like as we have a MACC agreement? Does an existing visual studio licence benefit the situation?

 

Regarding the database/storage costs can this be calculate in the azure pricing calculator, what is the correct storage product to select please?

 

Thanks again

Much appreciate

Hi @useruk1 

 

With the Azure licence you get Azure Services consumption credits but not Power Apps or Power Automate.

Regardless of the agreement you will have to pay the minimum Power Apps licence to be able to develop with this technology, the price may vary depending on the agreement.

As for the size of the DB you would have to do an exercise, you can not use the Azure calculator, because dataverse despite being a SQL has a relational model and metadata that makes it work differently.

 

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@Jmanriquerios Thank you again for your insight!

 

So the basic PowerApp licence comes to $20 per month. Will two licences be required for each developer working in the Dev/Test environment? the DB storage cost is missing, what exercise can be done to estimate this?

 

Thanks Again

Hi @useruk1 

 


Within the license you already have included storage space in the link that I sent you, you can see what they give you for storage. If you have to buy 2 licenses

To do the exercise is more complex, because it has to do with your database model and database size.

 

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If you’re buying PApps premium licenses, they are for unlimited environments within the same tenant. However you may need Power Automate premium licensing depending on what you are doing, in which case - yes you would need 2 licenses per developer - an Apps & an Automate License. 

each license adds 250MBs of storage capacity. The first Power Apps license you add to the tenant gives you a 10GB initial storage capacity. Each prod or sandbox environment requires 1GB capacity to be consumed regardless if Dataverse is deployed or not. Developer or Trial environments don’t consume capacity.

 

To get the best economies of scale, buy all licenses in the same tenant. Capacity is shared and you get Premium features such as managed environments, Pipelines, and default environment routing to easily move solutions from dev->test->prod. 

Good luck 👍 

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@Jmanriquerios yes it's great thank you! I have accepted now. I also read in Azure Dev/Test lab environments is you have an existing Visual studio licence this can help towards lower pricing for the test tenant?

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