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Dataverse Solution Strategy

Hello,

I have seen some videos and blogs about solution strategy in dataverse but I still don't fully get it. I believe I understand the application life cycle management (ALM) part of solutions where there is unmanaged solutions that can be exported to other environments to be tested then go to production. But I think there is a gap in my knowledge about "creating solutions per the component type". Below is a a screenshot of a video I watched that talked about this and I don't really understand it.

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My main questions are:

1. What is the fundamental purpose in separating the solutions in the screenshot above.

2. Is there any considerations I should be taking into account when developing a solution strategy. (For a bit of context the I am working with a startup company and don't expect to have a large amount of apps or users but want to build a framework that can support a large amount in the future)

 

Thanks,

All the best!

Jason

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Amik
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Hi @JasonSealy ,

 

1. The fundamental purpose of this set up is to avoid cross dependency risks when managing multiple Managed Solutions in the same environment, these can be a nightmare to resolve.

 

2. I do not think there is a single right answer. If you have a simple app with a couple of tables and a few components, and you can be virtually certain those components will not be depended on by other Solutions, then using a single Solution is the recommended option. In addition, if you have app which uses Flows and those Flows are only associated to that app, then packaging those components into a single Solution is fine as well.

 

Where trouble can begin is when you have multiple Solutions which share the same components. For example, suppose Solution A includes a specific component, such a Table, a Flow and a Canvas App. Developer A is making updates to the Entity views and Flows, while Developer B is currently making updates to the Canvas App. If we included all components into a single Solution, we cannot import to Production yet because although the Canvas App is ready to deploy, the Entity View and/or Flow is not. By segmenting the Solution, you only include components that are ready for distribution as an update into the Production Environment.

 

Another problem a segmented Solution can potentially avoid is a scenario whereas several Solutions contain the same component. For example, Solution A includes a specific component, such as a Security Role. Later, you also have Solution B which also includes the same Security role as a required component. Later, you remove the Security Role from Solution B but receive an “import failed due to missing dependencies” error because Solution A depends on it.

 

Note however that managing individual components in segmented Solutions creates more work – especially if you’re doing automated deployments via pipelines. Often it is sensible to include all components into a single Solution and manage updates with bi-weekly releases without worrying about dreaded dependency issues and solution layering.

 

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dpoggemann
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Hi @JasonSealy ,

 

I am interested in learning more about the solution by component approach because this is not how I have ever done this.  Can you share a link to the video so I can review?  

 

Are you building solutions that might go into ISV solutions or for your own organization as internal systems?  If for your own organization / company as internal applications then I would probably build a single solution and manage this deployment through your environments (unmanaged in development and managed in test / production).  This is the approach I have utilized in many customer deployments but the best practices here continue to progress.

Hope this helps. Please accept if answers your question or Like if helps in any way.
Thanks,
Drew
Amik
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Super User

Hi @JasonSealy ,

 

1. The fundamental purpose of this set up is to avoid cross dependency risks when managing multiple Managed Solutions in the same environment, these can be a nightmare to resolve.

 

2. I do not think there is a single right answer. If you have a simple app with a couple of tables and a few components, and you can be virtually certain those components will not be depended on by other Solutions, then using a single Solution is the recommended option. In addition, if you have app which uses Flows and those Flows are only associated to that app, then packaging those components into a single Solution is fine as well.

 

Where trouble can begin is when you have multiple Solutions which share the same components. For example, suppose Solution A includes a specific component, such a Table, a Flow and a Canvas App. Developer A is making updates to the Entity views and Flows, while Developer B is currently making updates to the Canvas App. If we included all components into a single Solution, we cannot import to Production yet because although the Canvas App is ready to deploy, the Entity View and/or Flow is not. By segmenting the Solution, you only include components that are ready for distribution as an update into the Production Environment.

 

Another problem a segmented Solution can potentially avoid is a scenario whereas several Solutions contain the same component. For example, Solution A includes a specific component, such as a Security Role. Later, you also have Solution B which also includes the same Security role as a required component. Later, you remove the Security Role from Solution B but receive an “import failed due to missing dependencies” error because Solution A depends on it.

 

Note however that managing individual components in segmented Solutions creates more work – especially if you’re doing automated deployments via pipelines. Often it is sensible to include all components into a single Solution and manage updates with bi-weekly releases without worrying about dreaded dependency issues and solution layering.

 

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Imran-Ami Khan

Here is the link, the screenshot is taken at 10:30 and before the screenshot the video explains the reasoning. I think for my purposes I will build my application in a single solution as it seems like the most reasonable for my situation.

Thanks,

Jason

(2) Creating a Dataverse Environment and Solution Strategy - YouTube

 

Thanks Amik, helped a lot!

Jason

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